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Snowflame

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An incredibly obscure comics villain. He's had a bit of a spur of re-appearances recently, and his subject matter seems like it would be discussed a lot, but there really isn't much on him. Google News hits turn up only Valnet and unreliable sources, Scholar yields no hits except for one book source, and Google Books search yields only the same book source: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Legion_of_Regrettable_Supervillains/TUhmCwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Snowflame%22+-wikipedia&pg=PA245&printsec=frontcover

This book source is additionally entirely plot summary. There's no analysis, Reception, or really anything I can find that actually establishes the subject's notability. I'd be happy to withdraw this nom if anyone happens to stumble on anything I've missed, but this is just a genuinely obscure character with basically nothing to his name, and it at best a case of TOOSOON depending on how much Snowflame gets used going forward. This article is likely better off being redirected or merged into another article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:01, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep (as page creator). I think that sites such as Vice, Gizmodo, HuffPost, and IGN (which are all cited in the article) provide enough coverage for the subject to pass WP:GNG. Di (they-them) (talk) 20:09, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch on those. Being entirely honest, I missed them when I was going through the article, so I'm really sorry about missing those. Still, IGN doesn't seem to contribute to notability per being routine coverage of an ongoing television series, with Snowflame only mentioned as appearing in the series, and the Comicbook sources are primarily plot summary. The VICE, Gizmodo, and HuffPost pieces are all decent enough, but my problem is that there really isn't anything here worth splitting. All of them say the same thing: Snowflame was mildly offensive, and later got a webcomic series. Given the character's incredibly small amount of appearances, Snowflame can quite easily exist in the character list without even threatening undue weight, with only a sentence or two really needed to describe why the character was notable. The issue here isn't really notability, but moreso the fact that Snowflame doesn't really have enough content to really warrant a split off the wider character list. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The VALNET articles are the first several references; the non-VALNET ones are like the entire right-handed column, so if you just looked at the first few, VALNET is what you would see. I get what you're saying about this not being a big deal to merge to a character list, and I agree: it would be a fine article to editorially merge. This, however, is a process that would compel such a merge, and in my mind the standard of non-notability is not met such that the article should be force-merged. Propose it on the talk page and I wouldn't have noticed or cared. Jclemens (talk) 03:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep VALNET sources aren't needed to demonstratae notability. HuffPo, Gizmodo, and IGN are just fine per RSP, so the VALNET sources aren't necessary to meet GNG. Comicbook.com is also not VALNET, doesn't have an RSP entry, and seems to have been used for similar articles without issue. While the nod to BEFORE is appreciated, reviewing the sources already referenced at time of nomination is important, too. Jclemens (talk) 20:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Sources like Vice, Gizmodo, HuffPost, and IGN covered Snowflame, which shows the character meets WP:GNG. I agree that the character is obscure. Yet, there is enough content to warrant a standalone article, even if it remains short.--AstridMitch (talk) 23:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete‎. Bishonen | tålk 05:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arnold Namisi

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Fails GNG. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: fails GNG, clearly created promotionally. AntiDionysius (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Few sources exist about Arnold Namisi, and none suggest he meets WP:GNG. The article reads like a paid ad and lacks encyclopedic merit. It also lacks third-party sources and thus fails to meet the platform's inclusion standards. AstridMitch (talk) 23:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete - Failed verification for sources provided, the other sources are either primary or circular. Clearly written promotionally. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Promotional, not notable, badly sourced, and so on. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 00:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Plaza de California

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Articles for deletion/Plaza de California

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This article appears to be original research in violation of WP:NOR and advocacy in violation of WP:NOT to the extent that it asserts that the unnamed fountain plaza at the end of Capitol Mall in Sacramento, California between the Jesse M. Unruh Building and the Stanley Mosk Building bears the name "Plaza de California". No reliable sources have been provided to that effect which actually describe the plaza as such in body text. The only two citations to books in the article which use the term Plaza de California are to a 2023 horror novel published by OtherLove Publishing, a small indie publisher whose address is a P.O. Box in Organ, New Mexico, population 323, and a 2024 nonfiction book about a "wedding march" in opposition to Governor Gavin Newsom's COVID-19 restrictions published by Histria Books, a small indie publisher whose address is a mail drop in a strip mall in North Las Vegas. Those are not exactly reliable sources in the sense of books about the history of Sacramento or the Capitol Mall.
The term is used in some articles cited in the article which appear to meet WP:RS, but again, never in the body text. Rather, the term was used exclusively in captions of photographs taken at Governor Gavin Newsom's second inauguration in January 2023. The reasonable inference is that someone at the inauguration (probably a PR flack trying to articulate ground rules for the news media) incorrectly referred to the plaza on Capitol Mall as such, and then the photographers blindly adopted that term when they submitted photo captions to their news services or newswires.
The article also cites a SDSU Web page about a Sacramento postcard, but the Web page dates from 2024 and the term is used only in the SDSU metadata for the postcard as expressly displayed on the web page. It is clearly possible that the archivist could have picked it up from the 2023 news coverage of Newsom's second inauguration. The postcard itself does not use the term.
None of the sources cited in the article in which the actual subject is the Capitol Mall or the plaza itself actually use the term Plaza de California to refer to the plaza.
A search on Google Books revealed that sources about the history of Sacramento usually refer to the "plaza" or "fountain plaza" on Capitol Mall, such as this 1987 book. They do not refer to the Plaza de California. The only context in which that phrase comes up in historical sources is with reference to the Panama–California Exposition, which did have a Plaza de California. This is consistent with my recollection as a lifelong California resident; I have read the Mercury News regularly for over thirty years and all major California newspapers for over twenty years. None of them have ever described the plaza in Sacramento at the end of Capitol Mall as the Plaza de California.
This appears to be a situation in which erroneous photo captions applied a nonexistent name to a plaza which traditionally had none, and then it spread from there. Wikipedia should not be amplifying such mistakes.
I raised this issue on the talk page six weeks ago but the user who created this article has failed to add reliable sources as requested.
It's time to delete this article, without prejudice to the right of anyone to re-create this article later if they can find reliable sources which show that the plaza has been historically and consistently referred to as the Plaza de California. Coolcaesar (talk) 19:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete A long-winded nomination but it's especially clear from the book hits that this is nonsense. Mangoe (talk) 04:22, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Boardgamer

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I found no significant coverage for this defunct game magazine. SL93 (talk) 19:13, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Operations (magazine) as an ATD. Jclemens (talk) 22:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe redirect because the article is mostly unreferenced, and the one reference that does exist is an unreliable source. SL93 (talk) 22:35, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Depending on whatever else shows up in this AfD, that may be the reasonable outcome. I'm open to see what others can come up with, as I know we have plenty who are more accomplished board gaming source hunters than I am. Jclemens (talk) 23:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Arundel

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it is looking like promotion and copyvio + not notable. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 18:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sukki Singapora

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Notability issues. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Sourcing is a bit thin in RS; the Independent is a paragraph. This in Rolling Stone India [1], Vogue India [2] and the Hindu [3]. More than enough for building at least a basic article about this individual. Coverage in Singapore, India and the UK, showing international attention as well. Oaktree b (talk) 18:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Kaanapponnu

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Unsourced, notability issue. Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:59, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Greek war crimes

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the article serves no purpose. All sections already exist as articles. Furthermore, it is impossible to confirm the content of the sources. Delete D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:35, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, i missed it. Thank you very much D.S. Lioness (talk) 19:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not sure if this necessitates a deletion of the article, but it needs a lot of work to bring it up to standards. Insanityclown1 (talk) 22:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...but you had already proposed for deletion 🤔 D.S. Lioness (talk) 01:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, A clear case of POV and original research article. It is about the "war crimes of Greece" and half of it narrates events that occured before Greece as a country even existed. It arbitrarily lists some events as massacres of Greece against Turkey, despite not being known as such in historiography, as victims come from both sides. At parts it relies on sources that are either too old, primary, or unreliable nationalist Turkish sites. As the nom said, every notable event that is included in this article already has its own, well written/sourced article. Plus, there is already a list of massacres during the Greco-Turkish war, and also the article of Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman contraction which already covers the same topics, but is more general. I don't think that to single one country out of all that can be warranted. This article seems to follow the example of German war crimes, Turkish war crimes, British war crimes, etc. however the creator forgot that these states have been major world empires that committed recognized genocides with deaths reaching up to millions; None of the events in which Greece participated was even close to having a similar impact, so as to warrant a separate, stand-alone article. Every country on earth has engaged in wars which had victims; if the threshold for creating such article was that low, then every country on earth would have a similar article. Piccco (talk) 22:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appointment Trader

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Looks like a promotioin and the platform doesn't seem significant enough. Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adriano Bernardes

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Former football player with 84 games, 71 at the semi-pro level, 13 in Switzerland's second-tier league. Sources are just roster listing sort of things. I don't think he meets WP:NSPORT. Here2rewrite (talk) 16:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SMK Bukit Bandaraya

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Article does not satisfy WP:GNG; no significant coverage on the school. N niyaz (talk) 12:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I tried to PROD the article but since it was classified as AfD before I couldn't. Isn't the lack of any user to defend the article explaining that it lacks notability? (Addition) I also just looked at the first nomination, it seems that it is a conversation between two sockpuppets. Could an admin check it out? N niyaz (talk) 00:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No reliable sources available. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 18:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnie Holiday

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Fails GNG and ENT. The claim to fame is that she appeared in a documentary about porn but isnt mentioned on the playbill for the film nor is she name checked in the Roger Ebert review of the film. Even if being un-named in a review and uncredited in the film counts, thats 1E territory. No objection to this being redirected to the film if deleted. Spartaz ^Humbug! 15:56, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No WP:RS available, also a blatant copyvio of [4], that is copyrighted and may be user-generated. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 18:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Even a name search doesn't bring up much of anything, let alone anything about this person. It's been tagged since 2016, I'd expect some sources to have turned up in the almost 10 yrs since; nothing has, so this likely isn't notable. Oaktree b (talk) 18:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete highly dependent on a Single source and per Oaktree and Alien333, there is no WP:RS available to search for notablity Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trinidad and Tobago national baseball team

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I was unable to find any WP:SIGCOV covering this team to meet the WP:GNG or WP:NTEAM, with only a few Facebook posts appearing in my BEFORE. The team does not appear to be ranked by the WBSC from what I can tell. Let'srun (talk) 14:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Trinidad and Tobago#Other sports which specifically references the national baseball team. Fails GNG with no significant coverage. Willing to reconsider if additional coverage is found so please ping me. Frank Anchor 14:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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ESPN College Basketball broadcast teams

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Subject does not meet the WP:NLIST due to a lack of coverage regarding these broadcasting teams. While individual broadcasters might be notable and they are covered in ESPN College Basketball, the teams themselves don't receive the same type of coverage. Let'srun (talk) 13:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of archaeological sites by continent and age

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This list is too broad in scope to ever be usefully complete. There are tens of thousands of archaeological sites in the world and most are notable. The current entries are a small fraction of just those sites we have articles on. We already have a list of archaeological sites by country (which is also very broad and should be split) to help people navigate by geography, as well as categories trees for Category:Archaeological sites by continent and Category:Archaeological sites by period, various templates and overview articles, etc. – Joe (talk) 13:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Given the categories which catalog the same information, this list adds nothing new except another page to maintain. Astaire (talk) 22:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was procedural close‎. The article creator draftified it to Draft:Muhammad Luqman. (non-admin closure) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Luqman

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Reviewed during NPP. A supposed prime minister of a tiny island, not meeting WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. Unsourced and no reliable sources were found online. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 11:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will also need salting if the article is deleted. Has been repetitively created multiple times. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 11:52, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete Just another article that deserve speedy deletion for WP:G3. Faldi00 (talk) 16:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Ice Road 2: Road to the Sky

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Lacking significant coverage per WP:NFF, draftify until receives more BOVINEBOY2008 11:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to The_Ice_Road#Sequel: for now. Not opposed to keep. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to The_Ice_Road#Sequel. Too soon to have its own article. Can be recreated once it has enough significant coverage. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 00:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Can't find much coverage since the cast announcements. hinnk (talk) 05:23, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Antálek

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Antálek played 90 minutes of professional football before being sent to lower leagues. I found nothing better than Teraz, a brief mention in squad list, but am not sure how reliable it is. Article fails WP:GNG without significant coverage overall. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Letters from a Killer

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The film does not appear to be significant by the rules of Wikipedia WP:MOVIE. No detailed coverage in authoritative references, no reviews, no awards.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 08:47, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: added things to page, including critical reception -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per WP:HEY. Newly added reviews. DonaldD23 talk to me 12:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Besides those already included in the article, there are reviews here, here and here. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 00:50, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happiness Is... Part 2

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The film does not appear to be significant by the rules of Wikipedia WP:MOVIE. No detailed coverage in authoritative references, no reviews, no awards.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 08:47, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of Russian films of 2019: a standard ATD when sources exist and cast is notable. Not opposed to keep. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sedale Threatt Jr. (basketball)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBASKETBALL - was created in 2017 with heavy promotional material. The subject played primarily in an Australian second tier semi-professional league. There are no secondary or independent sources available. The subject is also basically an Orphan with it's only link being his father's page at Sedale Threatt. DaHuzyBru (talk) 06:59, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Sedale Threatt. Not a complete throwaway as he did win some awards, but never played at a significant professional level (i.e., the NBA). 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 00:52, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baloch genocide

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The article has numerable issues, it relies on questionable sources, and as well as contains original research. But most of all, it seems to be a WP:POVFORK of Human rights abuses in Balochistan. It doesn’t have a really good verifiability argument. Any content that is reliable should be moved to the Human rights abuse page, as this page is better established and has more to say. This page just seems extremely unnecessary. VirtualVagabond (talk) 05:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Not a single source refers to a "genocide" and barely any scholarly sources, usually news sites being used for making exceptional claims and commentaries which would need further review. WP:TNT applies. Would also support merging anything reliable to the Humans rights abuses in Balochistan page, which this article is a content fork of for which the reliability of content is to be first established per consensus. Axedd (talk)
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Yamaha RX-K / RX-King 135

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No evidence of meeting WP:NPRODUCT * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Yamaha motorcycles. Failed to find any sufficient sources to support the article.
Redirect per above. BilletsMauves^€500 13:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I added five-six sources; this motorcycle is frequently referred to as "legendary" in Indonesia and has significant secondary coverage, including from IDN Times and Autos.id. Mr.choppers | ✎ 18:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I think. I agree that the sources added by Mr.choppers amount to significant coverage; I'm just not sure whether it's all reliable coverage, as I have no experience with Indonesian-language sources. -- asilvering (talk) 01:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Carll Goodpasture

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I have been looking for third party references to support this article but can find none, especially on the exhibitions and grants and awards categories. In addition, there are no references, other than links to primary sources from the subject person. I believe this is not notable and falls under under WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE / WP:PRIMARY, and may violate WP:BASIC / WP:PHOTOGRAPHER / WP:AUTO. Maybe, if no references apply, the subject could be inserted into a relevant American photographer article. Shotgunheist ^💬 04:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lillebror Johansson

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 03:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Joe Kerr (retired firefighter)

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Non-notable political candidate. Of the 4 sources cited on the page, 2 are his own website and 1 is Ballotpedia. No in-depth news coverage and no claim to notability. Holding a mid-level position in a union and serving on a state board does not entitle someone to a Wikipedia page. Page creator seems to have a personal connection to Kerr, judging by the fact that they uploaded several pictures of him on Commons and tagged them as "own work." BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 02:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Running for office isn't notable. The article uses primary or un-RS and all I can find are interviews or "get to know your candidate" articles [5]. Non-notable career otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 03:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:NPOL in short. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 04:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete There is no coverage from independent, reliable sources, the article doesn't meet WP: BIO notability. I think that Despite his contributions as a firefighter and political candidate, a standalone page isn’t justified. Yakov-kobi (talk) 09:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete WP:PROMOTION seems to have run for office multiple times, but never even come close to winning any of them. His Awards and Achievements section is sourced by his personal web site. — Maile (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No WP:SIGCOV from independent reliable sources Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy/Draftify - There have been significant concerns regarding this article, and I agree that there is no significant coverage on him in the media. Thank you for the concerns, and I will wait until there is significant news coverage to re-add this article with the ability to include a greater significance of independent news sources. Kkantisiri (talk) 03:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harry M. Rubin

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Upon review of article and its sources, the person in question does not meet the notability guidelines in question: the person is not (1) cited by 3rd party sources other than websites that repeat his bio as an official founder of Samuel Adams beer (2) known for originating a new concept [see point #1] (3) become a significant monument, etc. (4) He is not cited as by peers and 3rd party sources for the work that is well-known or significant. The article was written by a blocked user and could primarily serve the purpose of self promotion as defined in WP:NOTADVERT. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk)

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Delete. This is just a CV. No notability. ApLundell (talk) 05:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If deleted Harry Rubin (virologist) should be moved to the base name since Harry Rubin redirects here.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 23:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Folks, My apologies, I actually meant to nominate Harry Rubin (virologist) Late night editing got the best of me. Upon a 2nd look at this article in particular, I found new reputable secondary sources to that show indeed this Harry Rubin was indeed a Samuel Adams co-founder. I'm closing going to close this deletion nomination in favor of doing some work to improve the article itself. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe delete both of them.

Being a minor, behind-the-scenes partner of a business does not make someone notable.

ApLundell (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the spirit of WP:GD I'm going to suggest that we pursue a constructive alternative such as improving or cleaning up the article. Two main reasons (1) Being one of the Samuel Adams founders both within the beverage field and just generally is definitely a major contribution. It looks he was not the frontman, but, indeed, he's been recognized by multiple secondary sources as being a founder and his involvement in various beverage investments is notable enough to be topic of headlines. As you probably know, media outlets have full control over headlines, which means that these media outlets viewed his involvement as "the story". On a more basic level, Samuel Adams is also billion dollar major conglomerate, it's widely recognized, and is part of the American social milieu (2) I digged into other secondary sources and there's quite a few other significant achievements such as being one of the people who started GT Interactive, which launched DOOM (a major video game) (3) This nomination was a careless mistake on my part so it's kind of a fluke nomination. My apologies again to all for that bonehead error and for wasting folks time reviewing this!

re: Harry Rubin (virologist) Even though I intended to nominate it, I also now lean towards keeping it. Mostly because his achievements within his specific domain are quite significant.

If we deny this deletion nomination, I can take an action item to improve both pages.P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 22:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: See also AFD'ed C. M. Rubin, his partner. IgelRM (talk) 08:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Assuming this is for Harry M. Rubin? Solid keep ... Sam Adams founding is notable + impact in AAA game studios with solid set of citations. Recommend the Harry Rubin (virologist) AFD be posted separately? John.mark1956 (talk) 03:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bukit Bintang Boys' Secondary School

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Unnotable school does not satisfy WP:GNG, some editor decided to remove PROD with no improvements what so ever. N niyaz (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Just to clarify the timeline here, the article was deleted on July 13 after User:N niyaz's PROD expired. User:Auyongcheemeng made an undeletion request, saying this is one of the few schools that predates the founding of Malaysia, and the request was fulfilled on July 17, restoring the article. The PROD tag was correctly removed by an admin as part of the undeletion process. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 05:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bsoyka Unfortunately being 'one of the few schools that predates the founding of Malaysia' does not explain its failure in satisfying WP:GNG. For your information, there are thousands of schools that predates Malaysia's independence. And unless this school is a high achieving school which is rare, I don't see the school showing any significance. N niyaz (talk) 11:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. It was not that few for the number of schools during that time. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is one example a mission school set up by missionaries in the early days in pre-Malaysia days, not that 'rare' yes, but they are getting there. In the current and foreseeable future of political climate and increasing Islamisation of Malaysia the number of these type of schools are on the decline (462 nationwide, 227 in peninsular Malaysia in 2011 ^[1] down to 420 nationwide, 191 in peninsular Malaysia in 2024 ^[2]. [Not that many of these schools have wiki pages written]. These schools have contributed in the Malaysia's early days as a nation to produce current and former leaders/notable persons. [Bukit Bintang Boys' Secondary School] is no exception (see its list of alumni). Not many schools among the 10,000+ currently operating schools in Malaysia can attest to that. Bukit Bintang Girls' School (also was a mission school, but sadly no longer exists) a sister school involved in its founding of BBBSS has its wiki page preserved.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 03:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still stand by my earlier reasoning for this page to remain, being: historical and a pre-Malaysia school that has contributed to the early nation-building.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 03:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The facts of significance you provided deserve a place at article such as Education in Malaysia instead of this school. The school is not inherent of notability because it has early contribution to humanities as a missionary establishment per WP:ORGSIG. The school is not inheritable of notability because it has notable alumni per WP:INHERITORG.

Issue with this article is the history and other notable events sections fails to WP:PROVEIT with reliable sources. Other part could be just WP:MILL content. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 07:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sections that doesn't have verifiable/sources should be removed those cases, not an outright entire page removal. It doesn't help the case that the name "Bukit Bintang" is extremely SEO unfriendly as a casual web search with those terms will refer to "Jalan Bukit Bintang, Kuala Lumpur" the tourist spot, instead of the school. There are sources out there but they aren't electronic accessible/one dead trees for the most part/or buried in older web archives.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 15:07, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is just barely some digital traces that remain to this day, eg. mentioned in passing: BBBS & BBGS as major mission schools in the country in its day^[3]. C.M. Au Yong (talk) 16:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I assume removing them would leave nothing much left. A search at https://search.nlb.gov.sg/onesearch/Search?query=%22bukit+bintang+boys%22&cont=newspaper showing newspapers but irrelevant to article. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 04:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Being a mission school does not address the issue whatsoever, 420 or 191 is a big number to start with. Some of the sources cited in the article are also press releases and/or paid materials. And for your information, the enwiki is not for personal blogging and since it is the most spoken language it should be more stricter than mswiki. N niyaz (talk) 14:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of schools in Selangor. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 03:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wayne Alberts

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The provided sources are mentions and stats pages. Nothing else is available in Google. Shinadamina (talk) 01:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Lacks significance coverage. Mn1548 (talk) 09:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: +1 to what Mn1548 ... Plus no big accolades or legacy in Rugby that would make him notable.John.mark1956 (talk) 03:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Order of the Elephant of Godenu

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The subject doesn't appear to have significant coverage in reliable sources. The references presently being used don't establish notability. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Order of the Lion of Godenu for a related nomination. toweli (talk) 01:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Royal Order of the Lion of Godenu

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The subject doesn't appear to have significant coverage in reliable sources. The references presently being used don't establish notability. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Order of the Elephant of Godenu for a related nomination. toweli (talk) 01:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning Merge with Godenu. If this is notable, then there should be news/media stories about individuals who have been awarded this honor, or even obituaries mentioning it. A search of Google news and Bing news did not show any. If anyone knows of any Ghanan newspapers with such articles, that might change things. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WhatsApp University

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The term is indeed used in India. However, I don't think it has scope beyond a definition. It can be easily integrated in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution (WP:CFORK). Although start-class, it pretty much looks like a future repository for dumping all fake news spread on WhatsApp. For serious cases, there is already Indian WhatsApp lynchings. Gan Favourite (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per WP:NEO. The topic is better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, and the term is not separately notable. Many of the sources here just contain uses of the term but actually cover the topic (and not the term). Maybe merge a brief mention of the definition in the NDTV article. hinnk (talk) 04:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Based on the references added, keeping my !vote as is. These links [6][7][8][9] were added to support discussion of a Kerala High Court case. None of these mention the case at all, and none discuss WhatsApp University beyond using the phrase in a headline (two are political cartoons). The statement that "The phrase has…been a subject of stand-up comics" is referenced to a short review of a single comedian, where the topic is recapped very briefly. To Grabup's question below, the existing coverage isn't significant, and we're seeing how trying to present it as such means misleading readers. hinnk (talk) 05:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: i added some of WP:RS references. and this phrase clearly passes WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 12:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Agree with @Youknowwhoistheman --BeLucky (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect I agree with @hinnk, the topic can be better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, other than the defination, there is not much to inside the scope of this article which cannot be put under the Fake news article. Xoocit (talk) 08:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Enough sources are cited to establish the subject's notability. In my opinion, if there can be a standalone article with sufficient coverage, what is the reason to redirect? GrabUp - Talk 03:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now. Sufficient sources have been added to make a reasonable case for inclusion. I am somewhat dubious that this will develop into a full article, so a merge could make more sense down the road. We can cross that bridge when we get there.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: For now, however, should be reviosited and if still not fleshed out, should be Redirect as that would be the best move if there is still not much thereCassierREDDDD (talk) 07:54, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It is a very common topic in India so it is notable. Perhaps a disambiguation page pointing later to the real Whatsapp University. Sectioneer (talk) 16:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Here's a stab at a source table. The strongest candidates appear to be a short article in the Navbharat Times, an opinion piece in The Hindu, and an in-depth blog post of questionable reliability. That last one is really a stretch, and I think we'd be hard-pressed to hit WP:3REFS. Even more so to get something large enough that it'd merit being split off from Fake news in India. hinnk (talk) 02:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table: prepared by User:hinnk
https://cyberblogindia.in/the-great-indian-whatsapp-university/	~ Blog, no apparent editorial staff at the time		~ Partial
https://www.thehindu.com/society/whatsapp-indias-leading-university/article24358591.ece	~ WP:THEHINDU, but this seems to be an opinion piece		~ Partial
https://www.tv9hindi.com/business/misinformation-fake-news-will-be-the-biggest-risk-for-world-in-next-2-year-2355348.html		Brief mention, article is actually about a World Economic Forum report on online misinformation	✘ No
https://www.livehindustan.com/jharkhand/ranchi/story-students-need-to-leave-facebook-whatsapp-university-vice-chancellor-6861807.html		Brief usage	✘ No
https://hindi.news24online.com/travel/survival-tips-bear-alligator-water-whatsapp-university-truth-social-media/727091/		Brief usage	✘ No
https://www.scoopwhoop.com/humor/logic-khatre-mein-hai-kunal-kamra-takes-on-whatsapp-university-in-latest-stand-up/	~ Looks like a clickbait site	Screenshots and GIFs from a standup routine without secondary analysis	✘ No
https://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/tech/gadgets-news/whatsapp-launches-check-the-facts-campaign-to-fight-misinformation/articleshow/105384003.cms	~ WP:TOI	~ 2-paragraph blurb, but has actual coverage of changes in WhatsApp to prevent misinformation	~ Partial
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/maharashtra-ministers-whatsapp-university-jibe-at-bjps-new-online-campaign-plan-2270936		Brief mention	✘ No
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/yogi-getting-my-telephones-tapped-akhilesh/article37993341.ece		Brief usage	✘ No
https://www.apnlive.com/bjp-ruchi-pathak-india-on-99-years-lease-video/		Brief usage	✘ No
https://www.business-standard.com/politics/bjp-mps-call-kharge-vc-of-whatsapp-university-for-criticising-railways-123060901106_1.html		Brief usage in a quote	✘ No
https://www.jagran.com/editorial/apnibaat-secularism-of-whatsapp-university-separating-imul-is-like-saying-that-congress-has-no-relation-with-nehru-23434257.html		Brief usage, not related to what's being cited	✘ No
https://www.newslaundry.com/topic/whatsapp-university	~ Reliable publication, but this is a political cartoon	Appearance in a political cartoon, not related to what's being cited	✘ No
https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/bengaluru/2024/Jul/10/debunking-whatsapp-universitys-misinformation		Brief usage, article is about a tabletop game, not related to what's being cited	✘ No
https://www.livelaw.in/news-updates/dont-go-by-whatsapp-university-kerala-high-court-dismisses-pil-alleging-forced-vaccination-of-children-198488		Brief usage in a quote	✘ No
https://theprint.in/last-laughs/whatsapp-university-phd-in-mangal-gyaan-maths-isnt-ec-you-know/2066319/	~ Political cartoon	Brief usage, not related to what's being cited	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Whatsapp University is a real University of India, They even have a Linkedin page

https://www.linkedin.com/company/whatsapp-university/about/

"A genuine global University with schools of Engineering, Law and Humanities. Aiming to be in QS Top 100 by 2033.

Warning : Impersonators shall be Prosecuted or Shot." 106.210.38.218 (talk) 04:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Fake news in India#Modes of distribution; per WP:MERGETEXT. Not to say a term like this can't be used alone, see, e.g. Godi Media, a similar Indian term that has substantial references support - unlike here. Shotgunheist ^💬 05:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note, also, I just rolled back an addition about the actual "Whatsapp University" as it is patent nonsense with 4 followers on linkedin, and does not add to actual article notability being debated. Shotgunheist ^💬 05:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: the subject has been significantly covered by quite a number of sources, ToI, The Hindu, The Print, NDTV. Also covered by books such as 2019: How Modi Won India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.210.38.218 (talk) 06:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of 20th Century Fox films (1980–1989)

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This doesn't meet WP:NLIST / WP:GNG. It has no assertion of notability or references. Boleyn (talk) 22:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The list is an obviously notable topic for a list (or set). The split into lists by years, including this one, exists only for navigation reasons. References can be added, easily but Afds are not for cleanup.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 03:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question. I incline towards delete, in agreement with Boleyn, but I won't vote for the moment. However, I have a question: what is the point restricting it to the 1980s? There were certainly famous films (such as The Robe) well before that. Athel cb (talk) 13:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are several sibling lists for other decades, so the concept was clearly "split long list up into multiple sublists for convenience". If The Robe was from an earlier decade, thus, then it would simply belong in another decade's list. Bearcat (talk) 15:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy redirect Duplicates List_of_20th_Century_Fox_films_(1935–1999)#1980s, as do List of 20th Century Fox films (1935–1939), List of 20th Century Fox films (1970–1979), and List of 20th Century Fox films (1990–1999). If you're going to split the page, you have to finish the job. Reywas92^Talk 14:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Refer to Category:Lists of films by studio. Please note the navbox 20th Century Studios Films at the bottom of the page. This is part of larger lists. Since major (or even minor) film studios have such an enormous output of films over the years or decades, this is an acceptable method of listing films by studio. — Maile (talk) 12:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

G-Worldwide Entertainment

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Again, this article is deceptively written, creating an initial impression that it meets the criteria of WP:NCORP unless scrutinized closely. Critically fails WP:ORGCRIT, There is not even a single source from the article or WP:BEFORE to establish any context of notability. Being a nominee of The Beatz Awards is not significant enough to make it presumptively notable. Over all, fails WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree with nom, none of the sourcing meets GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 14:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chuck Garcia

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Promotional page for non-notable engineer and public speaker. I couldn't find any reliable sources via Google News or Newsbank Database (wider and deeper than Google). Fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NPROF, WP:AUTHOR. Cabrils (talk) 00:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Notability not apparent yet. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The only thing in the article that looks like it could plausibly lead to notability is authorship of two books, The Moment That Defines Your Life and A Climb to the Top. But my searches of the web, news, and scholarly sources failed to find any reliably published reviews of either book, so I don't think he passes WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for failing to meet any relevant notability standard and reeking of promotionalism. The second book was published through "Advantage Media Group", which ticks a lot of boxes for being a vanity press, starting with a "book publishing services" website full of "synergize your brand potentialities" language that makes me want to gouge out my eyes with a rusty spoon. Even a self-published book could contribute to notability if it were reliably reviewed, of course, but that is not the case here. Wikipedia is not LinkedIn. XOR'easter (talk) 22:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manu Intiraymi

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Not sure this person passes WP:NACTOR, mostly minor roles. Can't find any reliable sources discussing them apart from the cited nytimes source which isn't specifically about Intiraymi, but mentions him in passing in 3 paragraphs of a rather long piece about the state of the entertainment industry in LA in the late 1990s. Other sources I have been able to find are Star Trek fansites, which I wouldn't consider significant coverage. Hemiauchenia (talk) 00:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Science fiction and fantasy, and California. Hemiauchenia (talk) 00:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — Re WP:NACTOR, this subject has played a significant role in Star Trek: Voyager. But I am not finding that his role in One Tree Hill (TV series) was very significant. And it would take one or two more solid ones to find that he did so in multiple productions. The subject also fails WP:ANYBIO for lack of in-depth biographical coverage by unrelated parties. JFHJr (㊟) 00:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, but also JFHjr, who touches on ANYBIO. I think this is a fundamental fail. Perhaps when their career trajectory continues in the way they want it, it'll be different. Not quite now though. ——Serial Number 54129 00:48, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe WP:TOOSOON? JFHJr (㊟) 01:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes JFHJr thanks, that's good advice 👍 ——Serial Number 54129 09:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[2] "Directory of Christian Mission Schools in Malaysian (2024)" (PDF). Federation of Christian Schools Malaysia. Retrieved 2024-07-23.)

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