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List of fortifications along the Atlantic Wall

Maybe we should create a list of all the fortifications along the Atlantic wall (perhaps as a separate article), many have wikipedia articles but have no connection to this page. (213.167.69.4 (talk) 10:04, 6 September 2013 (UTC))[reply]

date of construction

In the Channel Islands construction started in 1941, shortly before Hitler gave the order that the Islands be fortified. So does that mean that the earlier Channel Islands date should be used as the start point of the Atlantic Wall (at the moment it says 1942)(Fdsdh1 (talk) 01:05, 1 November 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Failure

Despite the construction of the Atlantic Wall, Nazi Germany still failed to prevent D-Day, remain in control over their territory, and win the World War II. Did the British also built fortifications along their coasts to stop Germany invading them? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Anonymous One (talk • contribs) 04:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

There is an entire article about British anti-invasion preparations of World War II. 193.171.121.30 23:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

World War 2

In the opening paragraph it states WW2 started in 1942 and ended in 1944. This is a factual error because that was the "global war", not the beginning. Any objections to me changing it to 1939? 1sttomars 06:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's supposed to mean that the wall was built 1942-44, which was during WW2 (while not being the full duration of the war). - x-Flare-x 07:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow I missed that entirely, someone should clarify that. Thanks though 1sttomars 17:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantik wall movie

Recently I was watching a documentary about the Atlantic wall, specifically about the walls built by the Germans in France, and was curious if you had any ideas about what it might have been?

I originally thought that it was on the History channel but when I checked their schedule I couln't find it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. JP —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 155.188.183.7 (talk) 14:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

South-East Wall —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.240.210.229 (talk) 12:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The types of defensive structures built not described sufficiently

The types of defensive structures that were built in the Atlantikwall are not described sufficiently. For instance, Rommel deliberately inundated land inwards as a counter-measure against paratroopers. No mention of that in the article. Furthermore, mentioning underwater obstacles and mines is not enough. What kind of devices were they? How did they look like? Another question: was there a strategy of defense in depth? Wereldburger758 (talk) 07:34, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the German site on this subject and there some defensive structures are mentioned. Wereldburger758 (talk) 07:41, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Check out this site: [1] Wereldburger758 (talk) 07:50, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

25 March 2015

As of today, I've re-written the article with the aim of getting it to GA-status. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 17:58, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tomandjerry211 (talk · contribs) 23:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Give me a little time to go over the article.Tomandjerry211 (Let's have a chat) 23:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Partly Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Dup links to "Low Countries" Fixed. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 23:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply] Repeating the same cite over and over again in a row is unecessary. At the end of the day, it comes down to personal opinion. I prefer to always leave a cite after a period, even if it means repeating. Not against WP:MOS. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 23:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	I'm certain that there are more sources that talk about the Atlantic Wall But of course, there are hundreds, maybe thousands, of sources talking about the Atlantic Wall, but one reliable source is enough to support a claim or statement; perhaps you had some specific sentences in mind you would like some more sources to support? Let me know, Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 23:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.

Tomandjerry211, thank you for your review. I believe I've responded to all your points. Let me know if there is anything else. :) Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 23:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Passing, well done.--Tomandjerry211 (Let's have a chat) 23:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

History: Relaxed front

I found this wording a bit odd, in the section History:

Throughout most of 1942–43, the Atlantic Wall remained a relaxed front for the Axis troops manning it, with only two British attacks.

'Relaxed front' sounds odd, should it be changed to 'a relatively quiet sector'? Further suggested edit:

Throughout most of 1942–43, the Atlantic Wall remained a relatively quiet sector, with only two British attacks.

(I don't think there's a need to call out "for the Axis troops").

Thoughts? --K.e.coffman (talk) 23:03, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What was the result?

I did not see anywhere a statement about whether the wall was effective. There should at least be such a sentence in the introduction, e.g. (if this is true; I don't know): "The Atlantic Wall failed to stop the Allied invasion of Europe on D-Day." Or, "The Atlantic Wall impeded but did not stop the Allied invasion of Europe on D-Day." Or, "When the Allies invaded Europe in 1944, the Atlantic Wall failed to stop them." Or whatever gives the right impression of how effective the wall was. Zaslav (talk) 00:46, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]