Talk:Washtub bass

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Removal of category

The washtub bass is not a Double bass, any more than an acoustic bass guitar is a double bass. Furthermore, washtub basses are not always in the double bass register, sometimes they are in the cello register. Do not remove the category for a *fourth* time, thank you. Badagnani (talk) 20:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Commercial edits

I have made some edits to try to contain the commercialism that this page seems to invite. Makers of "improved" washtubs abound on the internet, and some are using Wikipedia to promote their product. While I applaud their enthusiasm for the instrument, Wikipedia's neutral-point-of-view, non-original-work and non-commercial policies make many recent edits inappropriate.

To those wishing to promote your version of the instrument, you can do better by putting in a few hours of needed research and adding useful info to this page. Doing so will help to promote the instrument in general, which is good for you because it is good for everyone. 68.144.70.5 (talk) 18:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)DaveCW[reply]

Self Promotion

TaipeiScene appears to be inflating the notability of the unknown or rotating Washtub Bass player in a band that was nominated for a "Best Packaging" Grammy. Merely playing an instrument does not rise to the level of notability, and using the term "Grammy nominated" to suggest some level of musical proficiency, let alone on the instrument in question, is disingenuous at best. All provided citations list multiple different players or show photos with yet other players on the instrument, therefore it is hard to determine if there is one notable player among the many in the band, let alone the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability provides guidance, requiring, among other criteria - "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material... Martin Walker's statement, in a newspaper article about Bill Clinton, that "In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice" is plainly a trivial mention of that band.

Listing "washtub bass" among the instruments played is likewise a trivial mention, just as listing "guitar" or "mandolin" does not qualify a player as being notable on those Wikipedia pages, and there cannot be a different standard applied here. It is a disservice to the truly notable musicians in the list.

"Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it.

As the only remedy for repeated, obvious self-promotion, I ask that TaipeiScene be banned from making changes to this page. DaveCW (talk) 20:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)DaveCW[reply]

I have found that the player, TC Lin, does meet notability requirements as a modern player, especially with the relatively small usage of the instrument in the present day. His inclusion on wikipedia as a living person attests to that. This is not the page to list every reason he is notable with multiple references that are already listed elsewhere on the site, but a place to mention his existence as a notable person that plays the washtub bass. Being a multi-instrumentalist should not disqualify him from being listed here. Any visitor to this page would be interested to see modern use of the instrument.

As to your claim of self promotion, that is completely unfounded. I have seen the player perform a few times in the past ten years during my work in Taiwan, though I have no personal relationship with him or the band he performs with. I am in the process of building pages for multiple award winning English speaking Taiwanese bands that meet notability requirements.

My choice to use the words Grammy nominated was indeed intentional, though not in the way you have accused me. It is incredibly unique that a person plays a washtub bass on two albums that were nominated for a Grammy, and is worth mentioning in such a short blurb. TaipeiScene (talk) 04:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

I believe this article should be merged with tea chest bass. It is functionally the exact same instrument with a metal tub in place of a wooden chest. A simply subsection can cover the difference in construction, culture and use. There's not enough information to support two articles and there's no reason to split it up. TheHYPO (talk) 12:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I think they are one and the same instrument. I would like to one other person say they agree, but if I knew what I was doing, I would merge the articles. DaveCW (talk) 08:35, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]