Talk:Shetland
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English and Scots names
[edit]Is there any need to give the "Scots" (sic) name for the islands given that it is the same as the English (quelle surprise). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.176.54 (talk) 09:48, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- You wouldn't know whether it was or not if both weren't stated. Mutt Lunker (talk) 10:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
As so often happens, there is a lot of inaccurate material in this entry; but someone (presumably the original author) objects when it is altered ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:1121:2E01:B5CE:E4AE:B3D0:339D (talk) 12:59, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- If you go to the 'Page Information' heading at left on the article page and go down to the bottom and click on 'Revision history statistics' you will see that over 400 people have contributed to the article so far. Some more than others of course, but the bottom line is that if you provide credible citations that support changes you want to make and are prepared to listen to others interpretations with an open mind, then the article will improve. Making significant changes without some kind of explanation is rarely successful, but if you are willing to collaborate you will, I think, find many friends here. Ben MacDui 13:59, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Update pictures
[edit]Hello, I've just had a little look on this page today. I've noticed that the Up Helly Aa picture looks really quite old (not sure on how old though), I just want to know if there are any updated photos of Up Helly Aa? I've got thousands of photos because I live in Shetland haha! I'm happy to put on WikiCommons but I need to have a little bit of advice on how to do that. Thanks, SarahTHunter (talk) 18:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
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Questions and comments
[edit]I read the article with interest. I made a variety of fixes and improvements both in terms of text and layout. I have a variety of questions and comments.
1. "Shetland has a national scenic area which, unusually, includes a number of discrete locations".
What does "discrete" mean? I suppose it's "different".
2. "Shetland is extremely rich in physical remains of the prehistoric eras and there are over 5,000 archaeological sites all told".
What does "all told" mean? I suppose it's "in total".
3. The text says "Norwegian king Harald Hårfagre ("Harald Fair Hair")".
Should it be Fair Hair or Fairhair? I have never seen the first version.
4. "The population stood at 17,814 in 1961."
The information is useful and relevant but it should not be where it is. It's not related. It should rather be part of a demographics section (which does not exist).
5. The caption "More than half of the Shetland catch by weight and value is mackerel" is redundant with the text.
6. "This business has grown substantially with 109 cruise ships already booked in for 2019, representing over 107,000 passenger visits."
This is likely old information.
7. "The tourism industry required short term support for "business survival and recovery" and that was expected to continue as the sector was "severely impacted for as long as physical distancing and travel restrictions"."
The sentence is hanging.
8. The quarries section has no introduction. It should.
9. The map in the government section does not have a caption. It should (I could not figure out how to add one).
10. "Anderson High School and Brae High School."
Do they really need to be listed?
11. "In 2022, as part of the Levelling Up White Paper, an "Island Forum" was proposed, which would allow local policymakers and residents in Shetland to work alongside their counterparts in Orkney, the Western Isles, Anglesey and the Isle of Wight on common issues, such as broadband connectivity, and provide a platform for them to communicate directly with the government on the challenges island communities face in terms of levelling up."
What does "levelling up" mean? I assume it's "even up" or something similar.
12. "After several unsuccessful attempts, including a plebiscite in 1985, the Lord Lyon King of Arms approved it as the official flag of Shetland in 2005."
I think it would be proper to briefly expand on the "unsuccessful attempts". To a typical reader, including myself, the context is not quite self-explanatory.
13. "The Shetland Black is a variety of blue potato with a dark skin and indigo-coloured flesh markings."
Should the link behind "blue potato" point to the Shetland Black potato?
14. "It became extinct sometime between the middle of the nineteenth century and the 1930s."
Unusual statement. If the date range is ~1850-1930s, about 80 years, shouldn't the extinction be placed in the 1930s?
ICE77 (talk) 06:26, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Insi Catt
[edit]Is there any online info about the name Insi Catt, referred to in Etymology? 24.108.18.81 (talk) 15:11, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Recent edit
[edit]@Sigehelmus: Your edit has a number of features:
- You have added "[known]" into the text of a direct quote but the quotation does not hint at this caveat. It's true that there may have been some Gaelic spoken in Shetland in the past we don't know about but I don't think this is the best way to explain this.
- You added "the popular and traditional claim' to the sentence about hjalt+land. Is this sourced?
- You added "Andrew Jennings has suggested a link with the Caledones." and "(also coinciding with Jennings' hypothesis for the early sound shift necessary for descent from *kalid- to *halit-, from Caledones)." I think you are saying this is sourced because you also added a link to Wiktionary.
- I am not at all sure that Wiktionary is considered a WP:RS, but even if it is, this is not a satisfactory method of citation - expecially in what is still a GA. Furthermore, although offhand it's hard to be sure I supect this is a fringe theory and more credible as a footnote. There are possible links with the Picts but I am not aware of any clear link between the Caledones and Shetland having been established. (I may be wrong about this - I am not as up-to-speed about Shetlandic prehistory as I'd like to be.) Ben MacDui 13:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
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