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Wikipedia's stance on mugshots as photos are the following:
Depending on the photo, the mug shot may preserve, in its unique and visually powerful way, the subject individual's brush with the law for posterity. Since a mug shot's stigmatizing effect can last well beyond the actual criminal proceedings, mug shots should be used with care within Wikipedia and in recognition of Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons and Neutral point of view policies.
We would need a photo that we have legal right to include, so either one in the public domain or one that has been released under one of the appropriate licenses that allows Wikipedia and those working from Wikipedia to make use of them. The only such photos that I find are three in Wikimedia Commons, and they are not great for the key photo - two of the three are at odd angles, and all of them are obscured by dark glasses. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article is poorly written and extremely biased[edit]
This is probably one of the most embarrassingly non-objective articles I’ve seen on Wikipedia. The person who wrote this clearly hates the individual they are writing about and it shows in every word of the article. And seriously, the mug shot photo? If I could report this article I would. Someone needs to scratch this whole article and rewrite objectively. Yikes. 2601:603:381:C100:F180:EB5A:B058:497 (talk) 16:07, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to propose specific new content and a different image. The article is what it is because those who wrote it based on it on the sources that are available. DMacks (talk) 16:27, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In a cursory overview of the lead, it looks like it pretty much summarizes what is in the body of the article (as it should). Per MOS:LEADCITE, the entire lead, and especially the opening paragraph, should be a summary of what is contained in the article, and therefore it should already be cited in the article body. If it is sourced in the body and the lead is a summary of that, it is not required to repeat the citation in the lead. So... while not required, it's also not necessarily discouraged. Ultimately, it's a combination of being a matter of taste (and consensus) while balanced with the need to make sure contentious topics are verified. Usually, if it's contentious or a source of edit warring, citations will be enforced to prevent article instability. ButlerBlog (talk) 18:11, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Historically significant federal prisoner number - needs to be preserved here, should be in article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Tiptopper (talk • contribs)
What information does the prisoner number gives us besides "this is the prisoner number"? In what way would the world be different if the number was different? It's hard to see what it signifies. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kent Hovind has stated his defense on several Youtube videos and it was also given in a book written by an attorney.
Kent Hovind denies all charges. He says a colleage said the government broke one hundred laws to "lock him up". He claimed the transcript for his trial was tampered (and told of (7-8) witnesses) and it was not given until (15) months later, rather than the required (12). Kent complained that was to insure he couldn't go to a court of appeals. In prison he behaved very well and was usually always in "camp", the least security for good behaviour.
I have just removed the links for the source "Affidavit of Kent E. Hovind (2005) with Circuit Court of Escambia County August 10, 2005". It was sourced to Wikisource, but the item had been deleted from Wikisource, and the stated reason for deletion was copyright violation. As such, we should not replace it with an archive link, as that too would be a copyright violation and thus against WP:COPYVIOEL. I do not know about the general availability of affidavits in civil cases; if the material is not accessible in some form, we may need to consider deletion of content due to WP:V failures. The citation is not being used for anything visibly contentious -- date of marriage, when they had kids, work as a teacher -- so I do not feel the need to delete it immediately out of ultra-caution. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
